tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5313683133270402386.post4935129892077758533..comments2023-04-06T03:16:54.980-07:00Comments on Stump Speech: JCC’s Self-Defeating Hiring Habits: “Oh, How Will We Ever Stop the Brain Drain of Upstate NY?”Stump Speechhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16889941863469927839noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5313683133270402386.post-63133974477714932042008-06-30T19:37:00.000-07:002008-06-30T19:37:00.000-07:00"Brain drain" from JCC? I've spoken, written and a...<B>"Brain drain" from JCC?</B> <BR/><BR/>I've spoken, written and advocated stopping it the best way I know how: <B>Having a 4-year SUNY College at Watertown.</B><BR/><BR/>I started my effort in 1995 and ever since continue to be laughed at - "We need our JCC - that's all we need. Kids can go to Canton, Potsdam or Oswego (or the two private schools nearby there, too)," they say.<BR/><BR/>Yes, they can and they do; and they usually don't come back and when they go there, their money goes there; and when Mom and Pop visit there, they spend their money there, too.<BR/><BR/>We have a need here and yet manny keep their collective heads stuck in the proverbial sand - but, remember what is exposed when your head is in the sand?<BR/><BR/>That's right...Danny M. Francis (Eyepublius)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15761954882933302927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5313683133270402386.post-70492768610230202112008-06-26T05:32:00.000-07:002008-06-26T05:32:00.000-07:00I attended a graduation ceremony not too many year...I attended a graduation ceremony not too many years ago and the program had a list of faculty and their credentials. I remember remarking to my wife how a disproportionate number of the faculty are "locals", educated in NNY. <BR/><BR/>I believe that the faculty of any college should be as diverse as possible; race, culture, politic, religion, sex, and age, and goegraphic identity. If it is not, the college is severely limiting the scope of ideas they can offer.<BR/><BR/>I couldn't find a list of faculty for JCC on the internet, but I'll bet you could get one from JCC Acministration. If you do, let us know what you find, SS.NorthCountryLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15506019525192362251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5313683133270402386.post-1210948710719562432008-05-28T13:37:00.000-07:002008-05-28T13:37:00.000-07:00Bringing JCC's stupid hiring decisions to the wide...Bringing JCC's stupid hiring decisions to the wider public is long overdue. Thank you, Stump Speech.<BR/><BR/>I grew up in Henderson, attended JCC, and earned a bachelor and masters degree at Clarkson, but I also was denied a teaching position at JCC. <BR/><BR/>So I live and teach in PA. And right now, I'm home visiting family in Henderson. Whenever I visit home, I'm reminded of JCC hiring someone from Utah instead of me. It would have been nice if I could've stayed in Upstate NY.<BR/><BR/>I agree with the Comment #1. I'll never forget how unprepared the hiring committe was, and how they seemed to have no idea what they were doing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5313683133270402386.post-11105478504715182872008-05-26T14:44:00.000-07:002008-05-26T14:44:00.000-07:00I'm also someone who applied for a job at JCC twic...I'm also someone who applied for a job at JCC twice, and both times lost it to an interviewee from out-of-state. I have graduate degrees from SUNY schools, more than a decade of college teaching experience, great course evaluations, excellent recommendations, publications -- in short, everything you'd want in a community college instructor. Interestingly enough, I'm also a graduate of JCC. When I was interviewed I got the sense that the hiring commitee was completely unprepared to interview me, and it was pretty clear that they hadn't even bothered to read my application materials. (This was confirmed by both of my reference writers, who said that the representative from JCC who called them knew nothing about me and asked "ridiculous" questions.) What's going on with JCC? Why this bias against SUNY educations? What incentive is there for someone like me to stay in NYS when institutions in other states are actually competing for candidates with NYS educations? If we don't start doing something about the brain drain everyone will be leaving NY for greener pastures. Every single local friend I knew in college has moved to the South or the West Coast. All we'll be left with here in Jefferson County is a failing agricultural industry, low-paying retail jobs, and Fort Drum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com